The Symposium

The Symposium

Plato Christopher Gill / Jan 28, 2020

The Symposium In the course of a lively drinking party a group of Athenian intellectuals exchange views on eros or desire From their conversation emerges a series of subtle reflections on gender roles sex in soc

  • Title: The Symposium
  • Author: Plato Christopher Gill
  • ISBN: 9780140449273
  • Page: 472
  • Format: Paperback
  • In the course of a lively drinking party, a group of Athenian intellectuals exchange views on eros, or desire From their conversation emerges a series of subtle reflections on gender roles, sex in society, and the sublimation of basic human instincts The discussion culminates in a radical challenge to conventional views by Plato s mentor, Socrates, who advocates transcenIn the course of a lively drinking party, a group of Athenian intellectuals exchange views on eros, or desire From their conversation emerges a series of subtle reflections on gender roles, sex in society, and the sublimation of basic human instincts The discussion culminates in a radical challenge to conventional views by Plato s mentor, Socrates, who advocates transcendence through spiritual love The Symposium is a deft interweaving of different viewpoints and ideas about the nature of love as a response to beauty, a cosmic force, a motive for social action, and as a means of ethical education.Translated with an introduction and notes by Christopher Gill

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        Greek Arabic Alternate Spelling Plat n, Platone Plato is a Classical Greek philosopher, mathematician, student of Socrates, writer of philosophical dialogues, and founder of the Academy in Athens, the first institution of higher learning in the Western world Along with his mentor, Socrates, and his student, Aristotle, Plato helped to lay the foundations of Western philosophy and science.Plato is one of the most important Western philosophers, exerting influence on virtually every figure in philosophy after him His dialogue The Republic is known as the first comprehensive work on political philosophy Plato also contributed foundationally to ethics, metaphysics, and epistemology His student, Aristotle, is also an extremely influential philosopher and the tutor of Alexander the Great of Macedonia.


    1. Plato’s The Symposium is one of the best loved classics from the ancient world, a work of consummate beauty as both philosophy and as literature, most appropriate since the topic of this dialogue is the nature of love and includes much philosophizing on beauty. In the spirit of freshness, I will focus on one very important section, where Socrates relates the words of his teacher Diotima on the birth of Love explained in the context of myth:“Following the birth of Aphrodite, the other gods we [...]

    2. Rating: 2* of five, all for Aristophanes's way trippy remix of the Book of GenesisWhile perusing a review of Death in Venice (dreadful tale, yet another fag-must-die-rather-than-love piece of normative propaganda) written by my good friend Stephen, he expressed a desire to read The Symposium before he eventually re-reads this crapulous homophobic maundering deathless work of art. As I have read The Symposium with less than stellar results, I warned him off. Well, see below for what happened next [...]

    3. Symposium, Plato , 1935عنوانها: ضیافت؛ سخن در خصوص عشق؛ اثر: افلاطون؛ تاریخ نخستین خوانش: ماه سپتامبر سال 1984 میلادیپس زمین و عشق بودند که جانشین هرج و مرج و بی شکلی آغازین هستی شدندعنوان: ضیافت، یا، سخن در خصوص عشق؛ اثر: افلاطون؛ ترجمه و پیشگفتار: محمدعلی فروغی؛ ویراستار و پی نوشت: محمداب [...]

    4. OPRAH: Good evening and welcome to What's the Most Spiritual Book of All Time? For people who missed last week's exciting semi-final round, The Sermon on the Mount beat The Bhagavad Gita 4-1 while Jonathan Livingston Seagull unexpectedly lost 3-2 to outsider The Symposium. Let's all welcome our finalists![Applause. Enter JESUS CHRIST and SOCRATES, both wearing tuxedos. They shake hands. More applause.]OPRAH: And now let me introduce our jury. I'm thrilled to have with us living legend Paul McCar [...]

    5. “It’s been less than three years that I’ve been Socrates’ companion and made it my job to know exactly what he says and does each day. Before that, I simply drifted aimlessly. Of course, I used to think that what I was doing was important, but in fact I was the most worthless man on earth—as bad as you are this very moment: I used to think philosophy was the last thing a man should do.”In Praise of Love: An EncoreThis is a dialogue about the human aspiration towards happiness, and ho [...]

    6. افلاطون، در رساله ی بسیار دلکش "ضیافت" ، بحث مفصلی راجع به حقیقت "عشق" می کند.رساله به بازگویی ماجرای یک ضیافت می پردازد. آگاتون میهمانی ای گرفته و نخبگان را دعوت کرده، از آن جمله است: سقراط استاد افلاطون. بحث به چیستی عشق می رسد و هر کس از میهمانان سخنرانی ای زیبا و غزل گونه در ست [...]

    7. I Never Met a Physician Who Wasn’t Descended from a GreekThis might just be the work that put the "meta-" (at least the "metafiction") in "metaphysics".Plato’s name is attached to it, but its principal focus is Socrates. And guess what? Socrates doesn’t so much elaborate on his own views as (1) recount the views of others (especially those of the female philosopher Diotima) and (2) indirectly reveal his views by his conduct and his responses to the views of others (especially the taunts of [...]

    8. The Symposium holds the key to ancient psychology. One has but to compare post-Freudian psychology's understanding of the drives with Plato's discourse on human longing here in order to measure the distance between the ancient and modern orientations to reality. It is strange for us to conceive this in the post-Darwinian, post-Freudian era, but Plato genuinely held that the longing to know is the fundamental human drive, with sexuality (the modern candidate foundational drive) being derived ther [...]

    9. خیلی کتاب خوبی بود زیاد پیش اومده بود که بشنوم سقراط از شیوه ی پرسش و پاسخ استفااده می کنه برای بحث کردن تو این کتاب اولین بار این دیدم چطور و چقدر هوشمندانه این کار رو انجام میدهداستان کتاب در مورد ضیافتیه که برگزار شده و بحث عشق میان حضار پیش میاد. که اول هر کدوم از حاضرین نظرش [...]

    10. In this book Socrates argues that it is not always a good idea to have sex with boys and Aristophanes explains we were once co-joined creatures of three sexes - either male/female, male/male or female/female and were shaped like balls. How could anyone not find this a book worth reading?

    11. Lectura #6 de la materia de Teoría del Conocimiento, "El Banquete".Citas y pequeños comentarios de uso personal:Sabios reunidos: Fedro, Agaton, Eriximaco, Pausanias, Aristodemo, Aristófanes*Tributo al amor."El Amor es un gran dios, muy digno de ser honrado por los dioses y por los hombres por mil razones, sobre todo, por su ancianidad; porque es el más anciano de los dioses."*Palabra clave: virtud."No conozco mayor ventaja para un joven, que tener un amante virtuoso; ni para un amante. que e [...]

    12. چند وقت پيش در جواب دوستم كه مى گفت دلم ميخواد عاشق بشم گفتم من اصلن نميدونم عشق چى هست ! نميدونستم كمتر از يه ماه بعد چشمم به يه همچين كتابى ميخوره و دو ساعته مى خونمش و حرفمو پس ميگيرم چه كتابى ، چه توصيفاتى حَض كامل و ديگر هيچ .

    13. The life of the party26 August 2015 You've really got to love the way Plato writes philosophy. Whereas everybody else simply writes what is in effect a work of non-fiction explaining some ideas, Plato seems to have the habit of inserting them into a story. Okay, he may not be the only philosopher that uses a story to convey his philosophical ideas, but he certainly stands out from his contemporaries, who simply wrote treatises. I've read a few of his works, and he always seems to structure it in [...]

    14. HEADLINE: This is priceless!When I was a young man, I and my friends certainly had some strange conversations, possibly aided by some substances of questionable legality in certain countries, but we never quite managed to attain the heights of strangeness reached at this banquet/drinking party(*) held in 416 BCE when Socrates was approximately 53 years old, once again the principal figure in this "dialogue" written by Plato between 12 and 15 years after Socrates' death by poisoning in 399 BCE. P [...]

    15. Gozba, simpozion, ili simpozijum je bila jedna od najzanimljivijih ustanova starogrčkog društva. Predstavljala je spoj večernje zabave, pijanke i političko-filozofskog foruma muškaraca jer ženama nije bio dozvoljen pristup. Najčešće je organizovana u čast pobede na nekom od agona, sportskih ili pozorišnih. Platon uzima gozbu kao okvir za svoje veliko delo, u kojoj se prelamaju društveni odnosi polisa Atine - politički, religijski, seksualni obrasci ponšanja izranjaju na površinu.P [...]

    16. Two points about this book that I didn't enjoy. Firstly the descriptions of intimate relations with persons of a very very young age which although not exclusive to the Greek people in those times were nevertheless disturbing to read about. Secondly, in the last pages he seems to be tooting his own horn a lot. Even though he portrays Socrates as this superhuman human we know that Socrates speaks Platos own words throughout the whole text so he seems to be giving these amazing characteristics to [...]

    17. And Agathon said, It is probable, Socrates, that I knew nothing of what I had said.And yet spoke you beautifully, Agathon, he said. Back in the late 1990s a cowpunk band named The Meat Purveyors had a song, Why Does There Have To Be A Morning After? It detailed stumbling around in the cruel light of day, sipping on backwash beer from the night before and attempting to reconstruct what at best remains a blur.The event depicted here is a hungover quest for certainty. The old hands in Athens have b [...]

    18. چهار پنج سالی از خوندن این کتاب میگذره. یادمه وقتی خوندمش اونقدر خوب بود که گفتم همۀ کتابهای دیگۀ افلاطون رو میخونم. و حتی چندتاییشون رو هم خریدم. ولی خب، وقت نشده هنوز اما سر تصمیمم هستم!این کتاب واقعاً اندیشه بخش و تأمل برانگیزه. دوست داشتم توی اون ضیافت می بودم و افلاطون رو م [...]

    19. The nature of eros is discussed in this famous dialogue by Plato. Symposium literally means "drinking party" in ancient Greek and this was one well-attended party with the likes of Alcibiades, Aristophanes, Agathon, Pausanias, Eryximachus and Socrates. A variety of views are put forward by the participants during the witty dialog that befits a drinking party. Some believe that eros is a somewhat shadowy thing, neither beautiful nor ugly, good nor bad. The most famous view is Aristophanes myth of [...]

    20. کتاب داستان مهمانی یکی از دوستان سقراط است که چون در شاعری جایزه گرفته ولیمه میدهد.در این مهمانی همه از شرب و نشاط و هیاهو خسته میشوند و بنا میگذارند هر یک خطبه ای در وصف عشق و مدح خداوند عشق(اروس) بسرایند.همه به نوبت سخن از خدای عشق کرده و در نهایت نوبت به سقراط میرسد و به روش خا [...]

    21. ضیافت، مهمانی یا سومپوسیون یکی از مهمترین دیالوگ‌هایافلاطون است. موضوع این دیالوگ اروس یا عشق است و این اثر مهمترین اثر افلاطون در زمینهٔ عشق می‌باشد. اثر دیگر افلاطون دربارهٔ عشق که با ضیافت هم در پیوند است فایدروس می‌باشد. این دیالوگ از دیالوگ‌های سقراطی افلاطون می‌باشد [...]

    22. In one of those strange literary coincidences this short treatise on Love by Plato has been referenced this past week in my reading of Barth’s The Friday Book and Hilton Als’s White Girls. And for completely different reasons. I haven’t plunged head-first into White Girls just yet, so this is a great opportunity to pause and catch up on a work of antiquity.My copy of The Symposium is translated from the Greek by Percy Bysshe Shelley - he titles the work The Banquet of Plato rather than the [...]

    23. سمپوزیوم/ضیافت رو بزبان اصلی نخوندم و ترجمه‌ش بانگلیسی رو خوندم و پس در مورد نثرش حرفی نمیتونم بزنم. اما پیشنهاد کوچکم اینه که ترجمه جوئت رو بخونید. اما سمپوزیوم همونطور که مشهوره در مورد یک شب‌نشینیه که توش شراب میخورند و در مورد عشق حرف میزنند. موقعیت واقعا اغراق‌آمیزه، قب [...]

    24. I'm not a philosophy or ancient history student, I picked up Plato's "Symposium" to challenge myself and see if I could understand it. The "Symposium" is a gathering of Greek thinkers who sit around and give speeches about love. Phaedrus talks about the greatness of love and how those who have it achieve great things. Pausanias talks of the merits of boy/man love where the boy pleasures the man while the man passes on his wisdom to the boy and that this is the best kind of love, not the lesser l [...]

    25. -Βλέπεις λοιπόν, είπε ότι κι εσύ δεν θεωρείς τον Έρωτα θεό; -Τι θα μπορούσε όμως, είπα, να είναι ο Έρωτας; Θνητός; -Κάθε άλλο. -Τι όμως; -Όπως είπαμε πριν, είπε, μεταξύ θνητού κι αθανάτου. -Δηλαδή τι,Διοτίμα; -Μεγάλος δαίμονας Σωκράτη· γιατί όλα τα δαιμονικά όντα βρίσκονται μεταξύ [...]

    26. Πρώτο γεννήθηκε το Χάος, ύστερα πλατύστηθη η Γη και ακολούθησε ο Ερωτας πρώτος κι αρχαιότερος των θεών ίσως και γι’ αυτό δεν υπάρχουν ούτε κι αναφέρονται οι γονείς του, εκτός κι αν είναι αυτοί ακριβώς: Το Χάος κι η θεμέλια Γη.Διά στόματος Παυσανία:Αφού είναι δύο οι Αφροδίτες [...]

    27. Once upon a time, millions of years ago, before humans were created God populated Earth with Unimen. The Unimen had only one eye, ear, and nostril, one hand, one leg, and no genitals. They reproduced asexually by growing a budding on their asymmetrical head, and when the budding developed into a baby they gently detached it, and the whole tribe took care of it, for Unimen were a very social species.Unimen were also intelligent and curious. And nothing fascinated them more than the sight of two o [...]

    28. کتاب برای من سبک جالبی داشت . همه ی افراد حاضر در مهمانی نظرات خود را درباره ی عشق و خدای عشق ،اروس، بیان می کنند . ولی تعریفات آخر آلکیبیادس که از سقراط می کند کمی اضافه بود .

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